Varrio Warfare
Ending Varrio Warfare is not as simple as it sounds. Varrio Warfare in terms of Nortenos vs. Surenos is rooted in pre-chicanismo times. It is our version of Israelis vs. Palestinians, they are the same people yet they are enemies. Our varrio warfare started in San Quentin State Prison, between La Nuestra Familia(Nortenos) and La Eme(Surenos). A member of La Eme stole some shoes from a Northener, the shoes did not fit him so he sold them to another Eme member named Robot. Robot was called on the shoes by the original owner, Hector Padilla of Nuestra Familia, after a brief physical confrontation, they didn’t know it, but they threw the first two fists of our Chicano Varrio Warfare which would remain to this day after decades.
It might seem pathetic to fight for shoes, to the point where to kill one another. In prison, it is a completely different society, inmates hold onto their belongings very deeply because it is esentially all they have and can be used as cash or be traded for other things. If you don’t stand up for yourself even with something small like shoes, the rest of the prison population will take you for a punk and will abuse you themselves in the future, to the point of taking away your manhood because anything you have is esentially up for grabs because you did not fight for your property in the past.
La Eme is a much older, larger clique than the Nortenos. Back in the day everyone was in La Eme and remained a soldier for them. Most of the original Nuestra Familia members originally were born from the south, excluding one or two I believe who were born in Bakersfield. La Eme was formed to protect Chicano/Mexicano inmates in prison. They offered protection from the Blacks and Whites who were physically bigger and stronger than most Mexicanos who were known to be short and stocky for the most part. They were able to stand united against other factions like The Black Guerilla Family and Aryan Brotherhood members. La Eme started abusing its positions and started charging high “rent” or demanded valuables too often from those who they were protecting, sometimes it got out of hand and they would attack other Mexicanos and Chicanos themselves, destroying the bond of carnalismo that we all once had in the prisons.
La Nuestra Familia was then born to protect Chicanos and Mexicanos, forming an alliance where they stood united against the more powerful, larger, Eme family. The animosity built between them over the years. While the Northeners were relatively small in numbers, they stressed quality over quantity and claimed the Surenos would only attack if there were a group of them. The Nortenos built on this and attacked La Eme’s concept of war, you have to consider both La Eme and NF(Nuestra Familia) are built on Chicanos and Mexicanos. In prison, they both stress the learning of our history, the Mexica, some of them are able to speak fluently in Nahuatl and it is not unheard of to be vocal about Mexica War Chants to taunt the guards and taunt the rival group.
You have both sides calling on each other’s honor for War. Both sides kill civilians and do not keep it between the soldiers. Both sides funnel harmful drugs like crank and cocaine into the community. It might seem elementary to argue over details or may seem like outright bickering but they do make a very strong argument for why Varrio warfare continues to this day. Both sides question each other’s machismo, “balls” when it comes to warfare, Nortenos claim that Surenos won’t fight you one on one, and Surenos claim the same. When you have a clique against another, it turns personal, it is not over red or blue, the fight is engaged because of other reasons like they jumped your homie or simple carnalismo exercised within the cliques. A homie backing up another homie no matter what.
From there builds the taunts each group have each other that are definitely insulting. The Northerners are referred to as Farmeros, because argiculture land dominates Northern California. Other ridiculing names for Northerners are Nortontos, Busters, While the Surenos are city boys, they are referred to as rats, scraps. The colors are only an excuse for war and the ability to practice warfare. Examples are these two insults, the first is from a Northener point of view “The reason why scraps wear blue is because they’re wanna be cops, always snitchin’ n shit”. This one is from a Sureno point of view “The reason why you guys wear red is so they can see you at night picking your onions”.
While the insults are elementary, they do attack one’s ego, especially among young males who have defiance for conformity. When you have members on either side, they will build cliques and therein forms the bonds of brotherhood. The sense of belonging to a group where they would roll with you and defend/back you up to the end. The bonds are tighter when they are not just Sureno for example, but a clique within the Sureno faction. An example is Pecos Pero Locos, PPL. So all the Southeners within PPL will definitely back up their homies no matter what, not just against Nortenos. Once again, the colors are just cosmetics to what really does happen and how they physically engage society.
In more contemporary times, Southeners are more of a mix of recent immigrants from Mexico, 1st gens and multi-gens. Northeners are more dominated by 1st generation and multi gen Mexican Americans. The Surenos insult the Northeners for not speaking spanish fluently or if at all. They counter argue the logic as being gabacho and then go on to insult them and say that is the reason why they are in bed(allied) with the Aryan Brotherhood. The Surenos call the Northeners as being “nigger lovers” for being allied with the Black Guerilla Family. This \feed the animosity between the more Mexican American dominated(North) clique and the Newly Arrivals, who tend to join with the Surenos moreso than with Nortenos. They build this animosity between city and country boys, and recent immigrant vs citizen. So the Surenos use this to their advantage when they regularly insult just to instigate a physical match.
The Surenos do claim that Northeners have lost their Mexicanismo, that they don’t speak the “mother” tongue of Mexico that is Spanish, while Northeners tend to have a more indigenous-centric view about it. Both do, however learn the ancestor’s ways and use that when recruiting for soldiers. It largely depends what prison the inmates are in, the opinions will differ.
This Norteno vs. Sureno Varrio Warfare has been tried to be stopped by one of the more famous Eme members named Cheyenne Cadena. His cousin who was in Nuestra Familia, name is Gonzalo “Chalo” Hernandez tried to request his cousin call off the war declared by La Eme in Folsom State Prison and Chino, to kill any NF member on site. The peace was agreed upon for a short while until La Eme confused by information they received from kites and wilas, broke it the truce and stabbed some Nuestra Familia members. After that, NF declared war and stabbed Cheyenne Cadena, threw him over the pier and when his body hit the floor, Nortenos stabbed him multiple times again. This scenario might sound very similiar to the scene in “American Me” when Olmos character gets stabbed by his own clique, while the movie was based on Cheyenne, most of the facts were changed, in real life, he was stabbed by NF, in the movie he was stabbed and killed by his own.
To end or even mitigate Varrio Warfare is definitely not an easy task, ultimately, to some people they feel the change has to come from within the Norteno and Sureno cliques, and they are La Eme and Nuestra Familia who are the ultimate “shot callers”. Bangers will not listen to anyone outside of the clique as far as their lifestyle, they will exclaim that they won’t understand. According to some “veteranos”, the change will never happen because the shot callers have to constantly fight their own younger soldiers who are out for power, even among the shot callers, for example, Norteno shot callers mostly reside in Pelican Bay, while in another prison the supreme shot caller in that prison will call for actions that is against those in Pelican Bay. So the constant struggle of power is an obstacle.
There is also the issue of honor, the older more experienced bangers “remember the days” of when war was honor and no civilians were murdered at least if they didn’t interfer with banger business. When soldiers were more loyal and trustworthy. Nowadays it is not like that, where you have your own bunkmate snitching on you or even helping carry out your assination because you were hypothetically “slipping”. There are even some veteranos who still are against the coca and crank that is distributed throughout the community by their own. So have to include greed and “money is power” when trying to understand this problem. When coke and crank were introduced in the 60s and 70s, it changed Varrio warfare forever, it was no longer a simple rivarly between cliques, but a struggle for money on drug sales.
Instiling and teaching both factions REAL “brown pride” as far our Mexicanos unidos is one way to mitigate Varrio warfare, but they already twist this information when they teach Mexica history to the inmates and few of the general population. We have to take this and show the bangers on the streets that they are twisting the information in prison. Real carnalismo is carnalismo with your people in whole, not just a clique. Both sides claim brown pride when both sides do not exercise it.

The nortenos and surenos will always be fighting, nothing new there, but I was wondering if you knew anything about the recent upswing in fighting between raza and negros, specifically with the county jail incidents that have caused the two to be segregated? I don’t remember ever having the racial fights be so bad that they had to segregate even in county jails. What’s next, segregation in Juve too?
I grew up in Compton, and the first time I saw the racial fighting escalate was when Southlos was fighting the Hoovers, but with La Eme’s escalation of the fighting in the early 90’s, things have gotten much worse. I guess segregation in county jail is the next logical step.
Btw, are you the same guy that posts over at Brown Pride? I saw what seems to be this exact post over there a few days ago. Anyway, keep up the good work.
re: surena pride etc.
Please, mijita. Get your head out of your behind. Surenos started this beef by discrespecting immigrants from Mexico, farmeros. Do your homework. Either way, like the article says, both sides are BAD. There is nothing positive about what your spitting. Get educated. Raise a family. Do something positive.
look, I use to be mixed up in all this crap, i use to be a sureno, i have a uncle in la pinta, from la eme, his down in chino, but u know wat all u gangsters don’t know wat the real meaning of raza is, its about working hard surviving, we bust our butts every blessed day out in the fields, in the construction, factories ect. and the freaking government, wants to throws out, chales with that, if their wasn’t any raza here, this country, wouldn’t have the economy that it has, bet u, no i guarantee u that the economy would fall, cause no gringo, or black wants, to work, hard thats why they have us here, they need us, their not stupid, what are they gonna do kick all 11 million of us, huh tuff luck…. And u know what, all u little dumb wanna be nortenos, if u don’t any smart to say don’t say anything at all, u look stupid and ignorant, putting all ur crap, on the page, come one, all u dumb gangs are giving us Mexicans, a bad name, what do u expect the gringos to say, when thanks to us the crime rate, is the highest in L.A., and all of califaz, and in many other parts of the country, believe me they don’t think to good of us, so stop with the crap, grow up, realize that one day ur gonna be on ur own, ur not always gonna, feed of ur parents, and live of them. It embarrassing to know that Hispanics, are makings this great and blessed country, a piece of crap, cause u decide, to act like a dumb ass, and going a gang, GROW UP!!!!!!!!!, dang when they think of gangsters, of crap, they think of us, that’s why they take advantage of our cheap labor, she should make a difference, go to school, be something, change the way they think about MEXICANS!!! Let them know that were better than that, that not all of us, are a bunch of PENDEJOS! Lets make a differences, lets change their mentality of us, have pride and dignity of your RAZA!! Cause the way things are going were just going down the drain.
VIVA LA RAZA
I ENJOYED READING THIS ARTICLE MORE POWER TO U HERMANO. THATS TRUE I LIVE IN THE HOOD WERE I SEE MANY OF MY YOUNG RAZA GET LOOKED UP OR DEAD FOR IGNORENCE. WERE ALL RAZA INSTEAD OF KILLING EACH OTHER WE SHOULD ALL UNIT AND HELP EACH OTHER. WE DO LOOK LIKE “PENDEJOS” IN THE WHITE MANS EYES. CAUSE INSTEAD OF HELPING EACH OTHER “NOS CHINGAMOS”. WHAT REALY MAKES ME ANGRIE IS WHEN PEOPLE CLAIM TO BE PROUD OF BEING BROWN AND THEY KILL THERE OWN BROWN BROTHERS. WE HAVE TO HAVE DIGNITY AND RESPECT. CARLOS I AGREE W/ U ON UR STATEMANT. TAMBIEN THIS AN ARTICLE THAT SHOULD REALY MAKE U THINK. DONT BE HATING ON HERE. HAVE MORE RESPECT. SEREMOS UNO EN LOS OJOS DE LA SOCIEDAD..BROWN.. DONT DESAPOINT UR ANSISTERS. KEEP THE KNOLEDGE SPREADING CARNAL… C/O
The War between the N/S is only good for the Gringos that are out to divide us.It is THEM that since the European invasion has been their way to divide and conquer. From the Tazcalas to the Paiutes/ Navajos, the Crow’s and the Lakotas that fought each other the invaders took advantage of already exixting conflicts. Custer, Pedro de Alvarado were defeated when some of those confilcts were put aside for the benefit of all the people. I am a veterano from East side San Jo…. also involved in the Xicano movement for 25 years and did some time in the 80’s I’ve heard all sides of the debate. It doesn’t maater to me what most people say… when the time comes our Raza will do what it takes to quell our true enemies….I t Will be a united front, just think what Zapata, Geronimo, and Cesar Chavez would think about all this madness…. We can’t expect a dope fiend mentality to get us out of this “minutemen” B.S. we are currently expereincing . Thats why there are problems in the pinta I personally felt it back then but I always remember that certain Individuals don’t always refect everyone in their community . Their are good and bad in every Barrio. Everyplace I’ve travled to in Aztlan I’ve always been treated with respect…al thruoghout The southwest. And when I die it’s going FOR my Raza not against them. We do have to understand that behind the walls thats just the way it is But their should be more respect .. LIke the original convicts not like this new generation that allows themselves to be manipulated by the Juras and don’t even know it. The Patriot act includes tracking gang members in prison… so keep trucha Raza… Mi Raza Primera
GENERATION OF UNITED MEXICANS.
immigrants, non-immigrants, we mexicans are here to stay!
people said that we are taking their jobs away well i don’t see no white people working in the fields piking grapes, onions, grapes,vegetables,… imagine if we weren’t here do you think that they will get their hands dirty, no they need us with out us these country is nothing. they are scare because we are growing so fast that later on we will be the majority.
so we all should be united and stay up these is is a new neneration and every could happened so keep your eyes open.
GENERATION OF UNITED MEXICANS we are here to stay..
dsg
you say that neither side has real brown pride but surenos are the only ones that still wear their pants up high like the pachucos of the past the nortenos are the ones who were their pants like the blacks. it seems to my that at least the surenos try to preserve so pride. Either way both sides need to stop the bullshit and work on being more united
you say that neither side has real brown pride but surenos are the only ones that still wear their pants up high like the pachucos of the past the nortenos are the ones who were their pants like the blacks. it seems to me that at least the surenos try to preserve some pride. Either way both sides need to stop the bullshit and work on being more united
You say that neither sides have real brown pride but surenos are the only ones that still wear their pants up high like the pachucos of the past,nortenos are the ones that were their pants like the blacks. It seems to me that at least the surenos try to preserve some pride. Either way both sides need to stop the violense and work on being more united
the surenos aint shit, we smash you skunks out in the BAY!! you can try to call us blacks or whatever but it is 2007 you beezy, ben davis is played out, i keep my white ENE’s on wit a super sharp Sean john fit to go with it. When you visit up NORTH bring your K wit cha, cuz i keep mine!! LUCIANO REPRESENTING THAT BIG MIGHTY NORTE LIFE, what you know about that??
FUCK ALL SCRAPAS PURO NORTE XIV 14
Simon Fuck Norte You Panochas Are Scraps!
Dont Be Using Words That You Dont Know The Meaning To…
187 Fuck Norte Sur-Side World Wide
Hey Whoever Wrote This Page Is A Pendejo It Was Folsom Prison And It Wasnt Over Shoes…
Thats what Mayates/Cotton Pickers Would Do
Fuck Scraps…South Side XIII
Now That I Remember Fuck Sir Dyno He Says EsE In Alot Of his Raps…Goes to Prove The you Chapates Are Fakes…
Come To southern Califas You Fucking Panochas, These Bald Headed Mexicans Will Run Up On you with the quickness
Fuck Norte You Putas Are A bunch Of scraps
Fuck all u seweratas we try to get u to come to the bay but not a single 1 of u muthafuckin rotten ass sewerata will do it u guys is a bunch of pussy ass bitches
FUCK PESE CRAZY MATON, YOU LIL SKUNK, I’LL KNOCK YOUR BITCH ASS OUT PUTO!!
Real Good! You guys have regressed from honest and true concerned positive comments to ignorant net-bangin. Your ill-educated lack of logic and reason is showing as clearly on this board as it does on the calles..
HAHA…WOAH…THEse fOOL’s from above the dominant south sure got their yap yap mouth open hahaha you’re all B.U.S.T.A’.S AKA as NADA!. Get with the times fools =/ On the real, you all DON’T run the bay …you think you do…but STUDY STUDY STUDY. I’ll type out my FACTS!!…For one **Southerners are ALL-OVER california…and when i say all over IT’S FUCKEN EXACTLY what i mean…don’t you all nortontitos have a fit:) Only reason we ain’t tooken ove complety is cause we dealin with whole lotta stuff down in our side..and ALL of you ain’t a problem:). OHH yeah and to the one who sayz u all run-us off the bay ..HAHAHAHHAHAAH alrighty Dummy let you tell it…anyhow i’m out ppl. P/S….When is a dummy aka nortonto gonna come down to Fresno and try to run anything?…hahah only askin cause SUR mekes these stupid dogs bow down! I’f you all know what I mean:) VIVA SUR! L8′S!
NORTE LIFE ON MINE!! 408 GANGSTERZ XIVMF!!!!
FUCK SUR
.FUCK NORPUTAS THIS BIG BAD >13
FUCK SCRAPZ IM STILL PUTTING THE BIG 14 IN 714 COMING FROM THAT TULARE COUNTY AND SHITTING ON UR STREETZ!!!! LIVING IN ANAHEIM AND STILL STAYING FLAMED UP U FUCKIN PUNKZ!!!!
I think that all this has to stop we have to unite ourselves and become one in order to be heard, but yet here we are fighting ourselves for a cause which is unknown. Do not feel as though you are tied down to a life style like this, there are people out in the world that care about you,people that make you fight for what ever reason dont really care about you. Like I said you are not alone in the world,the man above is always watching and caring for his children. Take a stand and end this unwinable fight.
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FUKK SCRAPSZ !
FUCK BUSTERS ITS ALL ABOUT THE BIG 13!!!
FUCK ALL YOU SCRAPS U GUYS DONT RUN SHIT DAM US NORTENOS BE KILLIN U FAGS IN LA TO
NORTE XIV 4 LIFE
FUCK BUSTERS! THEY CAN SUCK MY DICK LAME ASS BITCH ASS DISGRACE TO LA RAZA! THEY DONT WANT TO ADMIT THAT THE SUR SIDE CONTROLA FROM THE TOP OF CALI TO SAN DIEGO AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN ALL MY SOUTHERN UNITED RAZA WE RUN THE FUCKEN STREETS! RICGROVE VARRIO X3 SOUTH SIDE TULARE COUNTY RIFANDO FUCK A BITCH ASS CHAP
BUSTER FREE ALL DAY EVERY DAY LETTING MY 9 SPRAY MAKING BUSTER MOMS CRY HAHAHAHAHAHAH STUPID CHAP RVX3 SSTC GANG RIFA Y QUE!
FUCK BUSTERS BITCH ASS WANA BE NIGGERS I CATCH YOU SLIPEN IN YOUR OWN TOWN AGAIN DOWN ON MAIN STREET YOU FAGGET ASS NORPUTAS TALKING ALL THAT SHIT BUT WHEN WERE IN YOUR FACE….
ALL OF A SUDDEN ” OH I WAS JUST KIDDING I DONT BANG IM SORRY”
NOW THATS A TRUE STORY ON MANY OCCASIONS
FYI FOR ALL U BUSTERS GANG BANGIN ISNT FOR BITCHES GROW SOME BALLS ALL U BUSTERS CAN SUCK MY DICK
RVT GANG SUR SIDE TULARE COUNTY RIFEROS XIII
187 ON A BITCH ASS CHAP… AGAIN! AND WHAT FUCK YOUR DEAD HOMIES! REST IN PISS
THIS IS WHAT A BUSTER SOUNDS LIKE…
OH IM BAD! SNORTE HIV I WORK IN THE FIELDS! YO NIGGAH!…
DONT SHOOT ME!!!
just moved from the south to the north in the central valley and u know what ive noticed busters over here aint down for shit…you busters if u go down to la flamed upur asses get shot,,here in the vallay all you bustas are pussies..bustas are a bunch of la rejects and thats the truth becuse ive witnessed it..well south side forever fuckes still reppin in the valley homis.. plus u bustas cant rap for shit ive heard all those songs their stupid dont make sense just hating on the south cause were better ha ha ha ha
fuck all zcrap$ im put’n it down wit that big bad norte x4 Tulare County Norte(TCN) fuck all those scrap fags trying to rap : riding im my carucha ridin trucha:” what the fuck is that.
1-4 nortenos at yo door banging in tha streets repsnt’n norte XIV
i moved to KERMAN HIGH, the first day i went to school all flamed up with some dickie pants, solid red T-shirt under and a red checkered shirt over, there some $crap came up to me and asked me if i was a buster and where i was from.
then he tolled me that he was a down ass $crap and all the nortenos there were little pussy’s so i socked im the face and i started kicking him all over, i tolled him in his fuck’n face that it all about NORTE XIV, $crap didnt do shit
a that buster in anaheim probably lays low wearing angel gear you can get away wearin red out here cause there aint no busters out here not one set but we are out there youcouldnt hang out here youll get smoked now for that buster out here in the o.c whats up farmer juan were you at ill leave you covered in red puto were you stay at you busters talkin aks shit you mutha fuckers got pitchforks fuck the gay area fuckin flamin homos sportin your mommas bloody rag talkin like you got nigger dick in your mouth southside runs this mutha fucker bow down to the side thats greater than you.
fuck all busters all about big bad sur 13
wHITE POWER DUMBASS BEANERS.ALWAYS FIGHT ONE ANOTHER FOR STUPID AREACODES…A LITTLE HINT OF ADVICE MAYBE IF U UNITE AND BE STRONG LIKE THE ARYAN BROTHERHOOD THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN…LOLAND TAKE A BATH
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Rarely have I seen a dialog with meaningful ideas being exposed. I myself am a new generation of Chicano. Out of the 300 million people living in the U.S. Latino’s comprise of 75 million, with in that 75 million the largest minority is from Mexicano origin. I myself am from the so-called Generation Y yet; I am from the micro trend of the Manexo, which is the New Chicano/a generation. We are huge and many of us are of voting statute I believe Mark Penn a political strategist calls us Latino militants. We are a new generation, which believes that the conservation of Nuestra Familia de la Raza is in higher need. We are also much more religious and fixed on understanding the past to safe guard our future. Much of the community I come from is achieving the MEChA philosophy of education. I myself have a PhD from the University of Chicago in Political Science and most likely will be voting for Hillary Clinton. Historically her husband is the only president to appoint many true Chicano/a’s into cabinet office. As an organic intellectual I come from the bottom and know the best of both worlds and I perceive in a different way. If Bill Richards is to be elected by his party I will vote for him but the guy is a genius on international issues so I would rather have him be secretary of defense. As for Barack Obama I guarantee that he will become a new Supreme Court justice when Hillary becomes president. The future looks good for now. Thank you, Manexo
this line of comments shows exactly why americans have a problem with illegal mexican immigrants. im sure that if every man women and child were just hard working respectable latinos like some of you we wouldnt have the issues we have now but that just isnt the case. i know many upon many latinos that im proud to call my friends but i also see on a daily basis the ignorant uneducated poor gang banging mexicans giving millions of honest latinos a bad wrap. i highly doubt amnesty or anything of the sorts is in the future for illegal aliens. i myself think that immigration should be much easier and based upon what that single person can offer our nation. its time we stop the flow of gangbangers and let the honest hard working latinos looking for a better life live in peace. i agree with a few of the militant chicano ideas but how the hell do you expect anyone in the us to take any of you serious when everytime a gathering is arranges it turns into a flag burning anti american march with a bunch of young gang bangers. if you want to get anywhere in america you need to adopt the attitudes and ideals of the people you need to influence in order to move forward. i am an imigrant it took 3 years for me to get everything taken care of. i wasnt rich, didnt have a college education at the time, but i was able to do it. i can uncerstand the individuals mentality but when you start a family here in the usa and force them to uproot there lives because you broke the law its wrong. so what if the law is wrong, it doesnt change the end result. have some self respect and take the time to get a green card the legal way. and if all you are is some gang banging cholo bent on slingin your mexican dirt weed we dont want you anyway, go home and stop giving mexicans a bad name. another reason americans are so at odds is due to the strong need for latinos to hold onto there heritage. which i agree is a good thing but when you immigrate you become a latino american, not a mexican living on american soil. everyone immigrated here, take a irish catholic, noone asks them to suddenly forget who they are and where they came from but at the same time they dont go around claiming they are irish first we dont call them irish americans, theyre just americans and thats how it should be. we are americans a country of immigrants. that is what makes us american. when i came here i had a hard time learning english but ive come to understand the need and necessity for a country with one national language. i can understand the overwhelming urge to want to live in this nation, but ide be doing myself and my future a major injustice if i didnt take the time to do it legally. you miss out on a lot of what makes this country great. not to mention the fact that at any moment it could all be taken from you, and its noones fault but your own.
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Whats a pieace of crap article.
The norteno and sureno beef started outside of california before columbus arrived? Thats what your saying.
U trippin. Most you people have no clue what your talking about.
I dont even care if you were banging, just cause your a soilder dosnt mean you know what the hell is going on.
You guys talk about prison and this and that like thats how the norte/sur thing started. Yall act like the Nuestra Familia and Mexican Mafia started nortenos/surenos. And yall dont take in no account of early california history(spanish colony,mexican territory,california republic,mexican american war) or Cesar Chavez and the UFW or the Brown Berrrets ontop of geographical culture.People wanna say there gangs, people wanna say its a red and blue thing, people wanna say alot of crap that aint true.
And people dont wanna know that at least 1 person dies of this civil war everyfay. We got more casualties in california then we do in iraq. aint that a bitch!
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Foreal u guys shuld all unite u guys are all latinos u shuld be going against all da white people nd u nortenos don’t let no whiteboy in ur gangs wtf is dat only ur raza shuld be within u guys damn I’m a prettygirl I been out with both sides and all I hear is bullshit but both sides are always saying o we proud 2 be mexicans then act like 1 be all united as mexicans nd do shit in ur life instead of killing 1 more person each minute